domingo, 15 de febrero de 2015

ACTIVITY ABOUT THE MOVIE: POPE JOAN


POPE JOAN BY DONNA WOOLFOLK

Profile: For centuries, the mystery of pope Joan was lingered. The author Donna Woolfolk Cross spent seven years researching the femenine pontiff mystery and the related time period for her historical novel Pope Joan (1996). She told  a ABC primetime live that she believed that Pope Joan was a real person based on the material available, It having found over 500 chronicle accounts of its existence. Mentions of Pope Joan can be found in a book by poet Giovanni Boccaccio and many other sources and images of a female pontiff can be seen in numerous artworks, including sculptures by Gian Lorenzo Bernini at the Basilica in St. Peters Square.


Personally, I like these films because we can see how education has evolved from our ancestors to date. Initially because education was forbidden for a woman  and they had to be a make housewife. All these thoughts is like the older people had, I think that was a wrong idea about what they thought especially for men who thought or feared that a woman the will command them.

Questions:
1. Why do you think was the reason why women could not previously studied?
2. If you lived in that time you support that thought?
3. For men: Did you consider yourself a macho man? why?
    For women: Did you consider yourself a feminist? why?
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26 comentarios:

  1. Unknown15 de febrero de 2015 a las 14:40

    1. Because men had the power and also because of the social imaginaries that time used to have.
    2. As proffesor Adelmo explanied one time. You wouldn't believe that "bullcrap" you would be maybe like the others throwing rocks to Jesus.
    3. I consider myself as another human being. I don't find the need to do that differentiation.

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    1. Missyseli16 de febrero de 2015 a las 13:28

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    2. Missyseli16 de febrero de 2015 a las 13:30

      Thanks Cesar , as the comments are personal and themselves, just want to see the view of everyone, personally I think that a woman were afraid to order them .

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  2. Unknown15 de febrero de 2015 a las 16:48

    1. As Káiser said, men had the power to control every aspect of life, it was not 'correct' for society that a woman could study.
    2. I do not. Now, I can say I would not support that thought, but I would have to live in that time first to answer your question, and to know how I would act.
    3. No, I do not. For me that concept is stupid and wrong, 'macho men' does not exist, they only act like that to compensate a complex in their lives.

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    1. Missyseli16 de febrero de 2015 a las 13:32

      Thanks Duvan but as I responded to Cesar, is the opinion of everyone but for me I think it was fear and no need to live in the time, just from today like you do?

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    2. Unknown6 de mayo de 2015 a las 5:15

      You have an interesting perspective, but on the other hand, I cannot be sure of what men thought at that time, now we only can guess.

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  3. Anónimo15 de febrero de 2015 a las 17:18

    1) Because they knew that women are powerful and intelligent so, imagine if they gave study to powerful women at that time probably women could have control of society and that was impossible ...Nowadays women are having voice.
    2) We don't know... But power of men at that time was incredible so we as women were less than nothing.
    3) Nowadays women have voice and we defend our rights and if that is feminism yeah, we are feminists

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    1. Missyseli16 de febrero de 2015 a las 13:34

      Completely true Lore, an example what happened to Hypatia of Alexandria, so regardless of how much we are we must be strong in thought and intelligence and we must continue that thought.

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    2. Anónimo16 de febrero de 2015 a las 19:51

      Lore and Cami ...Pleaseee We are working together ¡¡

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    3. Missyseli3 de mayo de 2015 a las 13:25

      Well, it's not a topic of discussion, sorry we are human!!! THANKS...

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  4. Unknown15 de febrero de 2015 a las 17:52

    1- Because of the thing with Eva and the Tree, they thought women had no rights.
    2- It depends of the education i receive there
    3-Macho mans do not exist, its a stereotype that certain people pursue

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    1. Missyseli16 de febrero de 2015 a las 13:36

      Grace Esteban, but Eve ate the apple out of curiosity, however Adam ate because she had, who proved go beyond thought ?

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  5. Unknown15 de febrero de 2015 a las 18:29

    Miss. Hope you are fine.
    This a very interesting movie about a "myth", which is more real that we think of. Actually, she does exist. According to some researches then share by a documentary, there was a female pope a long time ego. But in order to hide that fact, they, church, didn't talk about for many, many centuries till this currently one.

    1. Well, the explanation for that I do not really remind. I completely forgot it. (Bit there's one, the main one)

    2. Yes, I would. In that time many things were forbidden for women. Therefore it's clear I would accept the "laws".

    3. I consider myself as a human being. So neither macho man nor feminist. That's it.

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    1. Unknown15 de febrero de 2015 a las 18:30

      She did exist*
      Past tense mistake. Jejejeje

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    2. Missyseli16 de febrero de 2015 a las 13:41

      Master, I have been very good, I hope that you too . And of course I also made ​​several inquiries about it, even as a child I was acolyte in a church and met many truths that others are myths, but that is in the thinking of each.
      jajaja well, the movie is about a woman that her gender is change for study and became pontiff , then she is a woman .

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  6. J. Felipe Pabón 16 de febrero de 2015 a las 6:01

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  7. J. Felipe Pabón 16 de febrero de 2015 a las 6:02

    1. Maybe because of our machist society, men thought women were just an object made to serve them.
    2.Well, if I jugde it from our context point of view of course I wouldn't be in accord, but as in those epochs that was the way of looking at things, there's a great possibility of me acepting that,
    3.I'm just running head to head with equality

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    1. Missyseli16 de febrero de 2015 a las 13:43

      Yes Pipe, unfortunately there are still countries that have that concept and of course, it all depends on where one this society .

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  8. Unknown16 de febrero de 2015 a las 18:10

    1. We live in a society where the man is considerated the savior, the one who works and know everything and women were just an object to clean and satisfy the men, literally.
    2. Depending on what I know, I obviously wouln't be in agreement with that thought but living in that time I don't even know what is the correct thing to do.
    3. No I don't. we are at the 21st century and women are the same that we are and we try to keep it that way to make things equal.

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  9. Unknown16 de febrero de 2015 a las 22:00

    1. Because for them the man had the power and was the unique who had rights
    2. Well I really don't know how I wold have reacted to something like this
    3. No, I believe in equality. woman and man have the same rights

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  10. David Morales17 de febrero de 2015 a las 8:39

    1. because when you are blind you not represent a threat
    2. If not exist other option I support it
    3. I consider that this conceptions are out of me

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  11. Missyseli17 de febrero de 2015 a las 9:47

    Thanks David but I do not understand what threat and conceptions which you speak?

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  12. Tatiana Arroyave 17 de febrero de 2015 a las 10:21

    1.because religion and the pathriarcal system influenced in it, and said that men were higher than women
    2.which one? the question is not clear, but I support Joan thought about fighting for women rights.
    3.no, because I support equality between women and men (The old ideal of feminist) but the new feminism it is very radical.

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    1. Missyseli12 de abril de 2015 a las 10:33

      At the time of the movie. But I thanks you for the comments

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